bake the world a better place with nestle toll house. >>> we must do something. it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. >> former congresswoman gabrielle giffords at the senate judiciary committee in january. we'll pick this back up at table. we were talking about one of the differences between now and 20 years ago when real gun legislation was getting through was the climate of crime. in the early 1990s, i think we have a poll here, this is in 1994, at sault weapons ban was passed in 1994, we took a poll and asked people what is the biggest issue facing america, the top answer was crime. this is 1994. if you take that same poll today, you have in 2013, crime and violence comes in at 2%. how much of the story is this? >> i think that's probably main story. i think that, and it is also true, like, let's get that out of the way, crime and violence, gun violence is down since then. but i'm just going to say it again, as long as we continue to focus on mass shootings and sort of individual tragedies to get gun laws passed, like we're not going to be as su